WOW!!! We like to thank everyone for the input on stars and stripes its really great how everyone likes to help each other.we are newbees but we are learning fast.found HH number three at the may basket.worlds buzziest hitch hiker and we where the first ones to stamp it.we will drop it off at????. hopefully we will get back out Coventry way next weekend to try the stars and stripes again.but with all your help i'm sure we will get it next time. again thank you all Lenny/Kathy.